- I was at Roswell in 1947 to early 1950. I was as at
the time a gunner in the 393rd Bomb Squadron, 509th Bomb Group and a member
of Captain Frederick Ewing's B-29 combat crew with tail number 44-7301
(Straight Flush) .. On Wednesday, July 9, 1947, our crew transported a
crate to Carswell Army Air Force Base, Fort Worth, Texas in 1:55 minutes.
The mission and cargo was classified. The crate was hauled in the front
bomb bay and armed guards rode in that bomb bay with the crate. When I
removed the down lock, I saw a Major and a Technical Sergeant in the bomb
bay and some others in there. They rode the whole trip in the bomb bay
and did not return with us. We flew unpressurized at about 8,000 feet.
Our bombardier made a safety check of the shackles which held the platform
secure. Those shackles were rigged so that the cargo could not be jettisoned.
The corporal tail gunner and I saw the crate when we removed the down
locks from the from the bomb doors. The crate was covered with a tarp
when unloaded and taken away on a trailer at Carswell. I would guess the
crate was about 12 x 6 x 6 feet. The engineer and I talked about weight
and balance. They evidently had not given him a firm figure on the weight.
He said with a laugh, "As long as it isn't more than five thousand
pounds our center of gravity should be okay." We knew that Ft. Worth
was to be our landing point, and we might get to see the new B-36 bomber.
Someone made a remark about carrying "The General's Furniture".
There had also been rumors for a couple of days about a spaceship crash,
but we were only told it was classified cargo and to stay back.
- On the way home, I went forward to chat with Warrant
Officer Landry about minor problem with a prop. We had the Curtiss Electric's
and there was concern that one of them was hunting a bit. Major Jessie
Marcel rode back to Roswell with us and I talked briefly with him. He
was always interested in the enlisted men on flight crews. He wanted gunners
to be good observers when on long missions. I don't think his questions
that day were probing. We were useful mostly as scanners because we had
only tail guns. He asked if I was anxious to get into B-36's? We were
told repeatedly not to talk of this incident, not even to our wives. I
held that inside until 1988 when books began to appear. To this day I
am in touch with one other member of our crew. Most of the others are
no longer alive. Major Ewing was killed in a B-47 crash in Florida in
- Sometime afterwards, about three to six months later,
the wives began talking among themselves about the cleanup detail. This
originated from the wives of men on that duty. One such was a neighbor
of ours in July 1947. They moved across town, but I would sometimes see
him and I ask him what he had seen out there. He was upset and told me,
"You don't want to know." I think he was a baker because he
would leave for work in the early morning, like 0130 hours. A time or two
when I'd come in from a late flight he would be standing on the corner
waiting for a ride. They did not own a car. Based on the wives gossip
we heard that he had seen a body.
- Later, I became a pilot and while in SAC and was an instructor
in the Aero-clubs and moonlighting as a crop duster. Aviation has been
my life. While in SAC KC-97's at March AFB our crew had two weird experiences,
with something that officially wasn't there. You may put the story in
your Filer's Files.
- Our thanks to a Roswell B-29 gunner.
- Editor's Note: The government claims what was brought
to Fort Worth under guard was an unclassified Mogul Balloon that they launched
regularly from White Sands Proving Grounds with printed instructions on
the side for a reward if found. Our witness claims there were multiple
guards inside the bomb bay. Even Atomic bombs did not normally warrant
guards inside the bomb bay and certainly not an officer with the rank of
Major. The witness verifies parts of the message held in General Ramey's
hand such as the debris forwarded to Fort Worth as ordered below:
- FOUR RAMEY MESSAGE COMPARISONS
- Neil Morris writes from the University of Manchester
in England. Several distinguished groups are attempting to interpret the
writing on a message held in General Ramey's hand taken in the Commander's
8th Air Force office by photographer James Bond Johnson in July of 1947.
David Rudiak's sent his "take" of the message and allowed me
to include it in the comparisons of readings taken from a message that
takes up a tiny portion of the photograph. It has taken fifty years and
modern computers to attempt to read the message. There are several interpretations
of the message and we should emphasize that the various "takes"
are far from being set in stone and represent a "snap-shot" of
a work in progress as of April. The interpretations, I am sure, WILL change
and evolve as time goes on.
- 1) CAPITALS denote firm interpretation.
- 2) Lowerspace are guesses but may be incorrect
- 3) "*" denote unknown letter,
- 4) My line format is to the best I can conclude, correct
to the grid layout
- of the typed text
- (M) - Neil Morris at U. of Manchester.
- (B) - Don Burleson's interpretation MUFON Journal March
- (C) - Tom Carey/Don Schmitt interpretation 3/2000.
- (DR) - David Rudiak March/April 2000
- (F) - Chris Farmer/Filer
- Line 1.
- (M) reco VERY Was ROSWELl Head oIc giveN AS THE
- (B)- RECO---- OPERATION WITH ROSWELL DISK 074 MJ--AT
- (C) RECO ... OPERATION AT THE
- (DR) recovery operations WEre fo und NEAR site two,
- Line 2.
- ????xxx xxx xxx xxxxxxx xx xxx xxxxx xxx xxxxxxxxx xx
- (M) ext 4*S EXp VIctIMS of THE WRecK and CONVAy ON TO
- (B) - --- THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE
- (C) JULY 4TH THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED
- (DR) todaY All THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED
- Line 3. ???xxx xx xxx
- (M) *** at FORT WORTH. Txe.
- (B) TEAM AT FORT WORTH. TXE.
- (C) AT FORT WORTH. TEX.
- (DR) teaM AT FORT WORTH, TEX.
- Line 4.
- ??xxxxxx xx xxx xx
- (M) w**S** SOrTei *e**** thAT- ONUS raaF T&E
- (B) ----SS-- ON THE "DISK" MUST- HAVE SENT
-0- A-AM-- A-------D(C) ESSOR
- ON THE "DISK" MUST THUS SAVE FOR ATOMIC LABORATORY
- (DR) ----ses in THE "DISC" THEY will ship
FOR Ac-as2 Arrived
- Line 5.
- ??xxxx-xx xx-xxxx
- (M) SOught CRASHes *O**** are needed sITEone **
- (B) -- URGENT. POWERS ARE NEEDED SITETWO AT CARLSBAD,NMEX--
- (C) URGENT. POWERS ARE NEEDED SITE TWO NW ROSWELL,
- (DR) by b29 OR c47. bomber sq AsSist
flights AT ROSWELL.
- Line 6.
- (M) MIDDAY 509# TOLD newspaPeR segment of STORY Adv
- (B) - SAFE TALK NEWSPAPER MEANING OF STORY AND -----
- (C) SAFE TALK WANTED FOR MEANING OF STORY AND MISSION
- (DR) (at noon)todaY SAID SenD MiStatEd rElease AS STORY
- (F) "TOLD GA50 UNKNOWN SGMNTS OF STORY...etc."__
- Line 7.
- (M) LLY THrY EVEN PUT for AF WEATATN BALLOONS raDar
- (B) ONLY SHOW ---- ---- BY WEATHER BALLOONS
- (C) NEXT CREW OUT TODAY. WEATHER BALLOONS WOULD MAKE
- (DR) (news)theY nEXt send out is of WEATHER BALLOONS
- Line 8. ??-xxxx-x
- (M) And Land L*** denver ofww3
- (B) ---- -- 9 AND LAND L--- DENVER CREWS.
- (C) . . . 509 HAS LAND SURVEYOR CREWS.
- (DR) (a good)storY. ADD LAND Displayer crewS.
- Line 9. xxxxx-
- (M) ******
- (B) TEMPLE
- (C) "R RAMEY"
- (DR) rAMEy
- (F) TEMPLE
- Thanks to Neil Morris, Dept, of Physics, University of
- HANGER 18, FACT OR FICTION?
- Robert Collins writes recent investigations have turned
up new information that may in fact point to a suspected place as Hangar
18 at WP but it's called Hangar 23: Hangar 23 sits between buildings 18F
and 18A in the 18 Complex and so this might make it easier to understand
how the Hangar 18 folklore developed? As the story goes from sources the
Roswell or another Craft(s) (dimensions of 30 X 15 feet disc) were brought
into Hangar 23. The floor of the hangar was removed and the craft lowered
into this newly dug out basement: A concrete floor was then placed over
this basement area containing the Craft. Please see http://home.earthlink.net/~rcollins637/reports/wp_hangar18.htm
for further information and http://home.sprintmail.com/~rigoletto/Sanctuary_Of_The_Birds.htm
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