- Why is it that if you say 'boo' to a Jew, you are immediately
accused of racism and anti-semitism? Please, tell me, what makes you all
so special?
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- You complain about how you are treated in countries where
you are a minority, and at the same time you treat your minority population
in Israel like dogs.
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- So what makes you different from the 9 million Ukrainian
farmers murdered by Stalin in the 1930s? Or the 6 million farmers murdered
on orders from the same lunatic in other parts of the USSR? What about
the mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania; the
genocide of 3 million Muslims; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans.
In total, Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million
victims, not including 20 million war dead during WWII.
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- You misrepresent events in the press. You shout 'Holocaust'
at every opportunity. You lay groundless accusations at the feet of anyone
that dares criticise you or your 'homeland'.
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- How is it that you get away with printing stories in
the UK's Daily Express, stating that Berlin Police have banned Jews from
wearing skull caps or Stars Of David in public, deliberately intending
to invoke feelings of Holocaust guilt in the rest of us, when in fact the
Berlin Police made a simple recommendation on the basis that they cannot
be everywhere at once?
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- That is equivilent to Northern Ireland's police advising
the Pope not to walk up the Shankhill Road in Belfast. Its good advice,
not religious censorship.
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- But no, you just have to dress it up in the clothes of
Nazism and anti-semitism. Why?
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- Could it be that you are feeling uncomfortable when the
public spotlight is on you? Could it be, perhaps, that you are not so happy
with what Sharon and the Israeli government are doing? Could it be that
you see THERE, and not in Europe, the work of Nazis?
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- Comment
(name witheld by request)
- 4-29-02
I don't think Mr. Robinson is denying that racism exists toward Jews! He's
merely pointing out the overwhelmingly clear fact that Israel, as a racist
state, is utterly hypocritical in its posturing. Lets fact cold hard historical
facts. The Jews were conquered and removed from the land a little over
two thousand years ago, and for thousands of years now Palestine has been
in the hands of many different people -- sometimes at war, sometimes at
peace. Prior to the UN Charter, every manner of men lived side by side
in peace in the land. Then the Jews were granted a state and all hell broke
loose not because of anything Arabs did, but because of the racist state
Israel established. These Jews who have returned to the UN chartered "homeland"
are interlopers upon an established time line of peoples living in that
area since the Jewish dispersal, and they have since day one oppressed
the non-Jews in the land. Now, what's done is done. It cannot be changed.
They could have chartered a non-racist state, but they didn't. The natural
outcome of this situation is a racist regime, the PLO, vs. the racist state
of Israel.
Lehmberg demonstrates everything Mr. Robinson was driving at with this
answer:
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- Robinson: But no, you just have to dress it up in the
clothes of Nazism and anti-Semitism.
- Lehmberg: If the shoe _fits_ maybe we non-Jews should
be _wearing_ it!
Lehmberg all but calls non-Jews Nazi's. This is the kind of mindset that
comes with racist Zionism. The only reason anyone has to take such insane
ramblings seriously is because the U.S. Government backs the Zionist intentions
of Israel. Bush simultaneously pretends to want Sharon to back off while
delivering more money and arms.
Mr. Lehmberg, in my view, proved all Mr. Robinson's points correct. We
have in the world "the ugly American." We also have "the
ugly Jew."
I commend Mr. Robinson for being clear headed enough to see through the
propaganda and spin of not only Zionism itself, but Zionists like Lehmberg.
One doesn't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist!
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- Comment
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- Alfred Lehmberg
Lehmberg@snowhill.com
4-29-2
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- Lehmberg: A non-Jew responds!
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- Robinson: Why is it that if you say 'boo' to a Jew, you
are immediately accused of racism and anti-semitism? Please, tell me, what
makes you all so special?
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- Lehmberg: Well -- forget for a moment that a long line
of evidence issues from the last thousand years in millions of citations
found in vast libraries of primary reference, and these citations demonstrate
an abundance of racism and anti-Semitism. What makes them so special is
you, Mr. R.! You separate them from yourself in the simplicity of your
speech. Hence your unexamined "You All". If you really want an
answer to your question, first realize that you're asking "that"
question, at all, then read the essay at this site: http://www.rense.com/general3/jews.htm
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- Robinson: You complain about how you are treated in countries
where you are a minority, and at the same time you treat your minority
population in Israel like dogs.
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- Lehmberg: Well -- maybe after decades of encouragement
the people of Israel have decided that if it walks and quacks like a duck,
it may very well be a duck. Besides where was the earnest concern for a
Palestinian homeland when Jordan had a much crueler dominion over the property
in question?
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- Robinson: So what makes you different from the 9 million
Ukrainian farmers murdered by Stalin in the 1930s? Or the 6 million farmers
murdered on orders from the same lunatic in other parts of the USSR? What
about the mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania;
the genocide of 3 million Muslims; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans.
In total, Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million
victims, not including 20 million war dead during WWII.
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- Lehmberg: This argumentative tack is _inordinately_ specious!
You proclaim this as if it was the Jews themselves speculating that their
suffering is superior to the suffering of others. I submit that Jews _empathize_
with the suffering of others more than you _sympathize_ with the suffering
of those others!
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- Robinson: You misrepresent events in the press. You shout
'Holocaust' at every opportunity. You lay groundless accusations at the
feet of anyone that dares criticise you or your 'homeland'.
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- Lehmberg: Wear their shoes, share their unbroken line
of history, demonstrate their capability, and make their contribution to
western civilization... then see how much crap _you_ take from your sullen
neighbors. Truly, they show a _restraint_, Mr. Robinson, that would not
be shown from these so-called "neighbors".
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- Robinson: How is it that you get away with printing stories
in the UK's Daily Express, stating that Berlin Police have banned Jews
from wearing skull caps or Stars Of David in public, deliberately intending
to invoke feelings of Holocaust guilt in the rest of us, when in fact the
Berlin Police made a simple recommendation on the basis that they cannot
be everywhere at once?
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- Lehmberg: You can call it the way you'd see it, Mr. Robinson.
As to feelings of Holocaust guilt? I would predict that you have never
experienced them. Perhaps Jews feel a little of the "once burned,
twice shy", and Jews have been burned many, many times.
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- Robinson: That is equivilent to Northern Ireland's police
advising the Pope not to walk up the Shankhill Road in Belfast. Its good
advice, not religious censorship.
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- Lehmberg: Your analogy is simplistic and misleading,
equivalent to blaming a rape victim of the crime based on an airy and immaterial
call of dressing suggestively.
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- Robinson: But no, you just have to dress it up in the
clothes of Nazism and anti-semitism.
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- Lehmberg: If the shoe _fits_ maybe we non-Jews should
be _wearing_ it!
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- Robinson: Why?
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- Lehmberg: I'd submit that you are not that interested
in finding out "why", but a great place to begin your search
is: http://www.rense.com/general3/jews.htm
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- Robinson: Could it be that you are feeling uncomfortable
when the public spotlight is on you?
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- Lehmberg: I'd suspect that they worry about the spotlight
on pronouncements like yours because these pronouncements are uninformed,
lack imagination, and ignore the obvious. They are uninformed because they
have not looked at any of the primary references. They lack imagination
because they support a short view solution to middle Eastern problems.
They ignore the obvious because Jews do _not_ support a return to 1350
or the 1950's, and their Moslem and Christian opposition, generally, does!
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- Robinson: Could it be, perhaps, that you are not so happy
with what Sharon and the Israeli government are doing?
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- Lehmberg: I'd submit the Israeli government and perhaps
even Sharon himself are not the LEAST bit happy about what their religiously
fundamentalist and therefore "screwy" neighbors have compelled
them to do.
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- Robinson: Could it be that you see THERE, and not in
Europe, the work of Nazis?
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- Lehmberg: That's laughable -- even ludicrous. I'll tell
you what _I_ see! I see a Palestinian people that had their homeland in
_hand_ ... but threw it all away, snatched _defeat_ from the jaws of _victory_,
when they wouldn't share Jerusalem. This is the equivalent of a willfully
ignorant and violent grandson trying to throw his learned and still productive
grandfather out into the street, and insisting upon it in negotiation.
Grandpa may yet sweep that errant youngster out into the street, himself!
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- Lastly, this non-Jew asks: what makes Mr. Robinson so
special that he can't cop to obvious racism and anti-Semitism since 1000
AD and still very much alive in 2002?
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- Comment
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- From Sheryl Jackson
moonfyre1@earthlink.net
4-30-2
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- Sir, I read your article several times. I have only a
few comments. I have never heard the Jews stand and say they are special.
That is being pedaled by the Christian Coalition and the Moral Majority,
that uses the Bible as their reference. They specifically state that the
God of Abraham told the Jews that they were His Chosen People. I understand
that this is what they believe from their pulpit with Jerry Falwell, Jim
Bakker, Billy Graham, etc..
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- The BurningBabyBush also claims to support the Bible
and wants to use this as his excuse to support the Jews and their Nazi
behavior. Of course, his granddaddy and his daddy supported the Nazis of
WWII and he wants to be the HeadNazi now with the NewWorldOrder.
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- He is well suited for this position, as are all very
small men with great gargantuan egos. Selected by Daddy's Filthy Five of
the Former United States Supreme Court, he believes his own spinmeisters.
He is JOHN WAYNE, and he swaggers forth and commits greivous grammatical
errors with his rhetoric, but he was the GOVERNOR/EXECUTIONER of Texas.
His wife shares in his murderous tendencies, having killed one of her best
friends while joyriding through a stop sign at the age of 17, drunk on
her ass. What a pair to draw to, huh? Kindof like that sweet old couple
Joseph and Minnie Mengele.
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- So, I say, that it is not the Jews who perpetuate the
specialness of their religious proclivities, but indeed, it is the agenda
of the StupidWhiteMen in charge of this country. I further say, that if
they are indeed, the Chosen People of God, they hardly need our help. God
does not need anyone to run interference for Her. She is not a warrior,
and has only recently attended this war in the refusal of a growing number
of Israeli soldiers to not kill the Palestinians that they were commanded
to. There was also a pilot who refused to shoot his bombs at the homes
of the elderly and children. We are bringing bad Karma to us, and I am
now starting to worry about what Her Wrath will be when she deals with
America for interfering.
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- If anyone wants a war, let them go fight that war. No
exclusions, send the olde Farts who are so gungho for the blood of others.
No bad backs, no flat feet, no deafness or being pigeontoed. Do not send
our children to Kamp to learn to run at bullets, send the construction
workers that support BabyBush and his war. all of those that believe in
war should go, no, should HAVE to go and fight. Stop the insanity of killing
our returning veterans with depleted uranium, agent orange, chemical warfare,
and innoculations of Anthrax based with squalenes. If they are not killed
outright, they come home to suffer miserably, breeding deformed and dead
children, poisoning their mates and feeding the outrageous coffers of the
inept, incompetent medical community.
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- No one should be cannon fodder for the Carlyle Group
and Enron. No one except those who believe in war. How come BabyBush and
Sharon are not on the battle lines? When they go, then they can run a war.
What the hell is wrong with our military that they will take orders from
a business-startup-failed-seven-times CEO? What the hell is wrong with
the men who know war and how to fight the war, that they would allow a
candynosed, boozer to tell them what to do?
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- Thank you for your time.
Sheryl Jackson
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