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Dear Clifford
From Diane Harvey
7-28-3


Dear Clifford,
 
I am writing this to you from France, and will not be able to listen to your program with Jeff tonight. I regret this since I know you will do evedrything in your power to address the issues that many of us have expressed so much concern about.
 
It is somewhat awkward to open a public dialogue of this nature with someone for whom I have friendly personal regard as well the utmost impersonal respect.
 
But the Internet is not worth anything if it cannot provide a forum for sincere dialogue among those equally concerned with the most vital issues of our lives. So I will try my best to set forth the serious concerns I have about the implications and aftereffects of the astonishing ìpreemptiveî message you have delivered, because my questions are real, and they are fair.
 
Nothing I have been thinking and writing about this message is unique. To the contrary, many similar thoughts have arisen naturally from these circumstances in other minds than mine. So, I am not going too far in saying that I know I do not speak only for myself but for at least a few others as well, in wishing to discuss this at greater length, quite openly, and in good faith. Because this latest communiquÈ of yours is of such a nature as to require a great deal of our very best collective and most disinterested consideration.
 
In order to allow me to make my point, please put yourself in our shoes for a moment. Many of us have also been working on this issue for years now, and we care deeply about what may and may not be true about every facet of this problem. Imagine that the experience you have described happened to someone else, and you were in our place, reading such a blanket statement as you have presented us with. Would you simply swallow such an amazing item whole, no questions asked? I think you would read a post like this and maintain at the very least strict neutrality, until such a time as verifiable evidence arose supporting such amazing claims. This type of material, offered point blank and without supporting data, can only be taken for now as a series of personal statements by you, neither verifiable nor subject to disproof by anyone else. In short, for the sake of maintaining all-important objectivity, these claims must be considered, technically speaking, as hearsay. This is not to say they are not true, but to affirm that we cannot prove it. You will surely agree that all of us who cannot share your personal experience in any way must naturally scrupulously catalogue such a report in as detached a manner as possible.
 
Since we know you at least well enough to know you never lie, we understand that you are reporting exactly what you believe to be true. And your message implies an invitation for us to believe it too, simply because it comes from you, and is your sincere interpretation of the events you describe. But since there is no supporting information or evidence forthcoming of any kind whatsoever, such a leap of blind faith by the rest of us cannot reasonably ensue. The fundamental problem with this unhappy situation is clear. None of us is perfectly informed on the inner workings of the full scope of global aerosol operations, to put it mildly, and none of us is foolproof either. There isnít one of us who havenít been mistaken now and again, and who couldnít be mistaken again at any time. In short, believing the unsubstantiated statements even of our best-informed friends is not something we are likely to do very often. It has happened, but it is extremely rare. And in this case, for some of us there are other potential problems with this version of events which we must carefully examine, aside from the inevitably and rightly very touchy issue of purported received wisdom from anonymous secretive authorities.
 
In answer to my initial questions, you posted the following on your message board:
 
"REPEATED: This information is relayed without qualification, as I am knowledgeable in the level of integrity of the researcher that has made this information available to the public. There is both risk and restraint that has been exercised in the preparation of this statement. My primary role here is to make the information from this meeting available, as I am aware of the circumstances surrounding it. I will not be at liberty to discuss the information in any greater detail than it has been presented. CEC"
 
OK, let me then repeat myself as well.
 
My question to you is how you could expect us to do the very thing you yourself have said, over and over again, you try never to do. And that is to simply believe what someone else has said, on the basis of no included evidence. You have taught us very well in this regard. I know you will not think us monsters of ingratitude for raising these issues, and I expect that you can even smile at just how well we have taken all you have taught us to heart. Because thanks to you and other similarly hardy and discriminating minds, we have learned to distinguish the crucial difference between what we merely believe, and what we know for a certainty to be true. And as you see, we arenít going to forget it either.
 
Next, "there is both risk and restraint that has been exercised in the preparation of this statement." We know you are the very soul of integrity and carefulness, and we do take your word for it that this is what you experienced. But still, since this is not provable to anyone else, at the level and in the way you experienced it, such a statement unfortunately in the end just ends up adding to the general wholesale mystification. That is, while we trust your integrity absolutely, your experience here is your own, and is not directly transferable as useful fact to anyone else.
 
Then, "My primary role here is to make the information from this meeting available, as I am aware of the circumstances surrounding it."
 
Well, but that's just it. To what information are you referring? I don't see anything resembling what I would call actual information in any of this. From my perspective, I can see at best merely yet another possibility. I can't even quite understand the point of posting something of this extraordinarily volatile nature in the first place. In essence, for now, it amounts to terrifying and wholly unverifiable speculation, and apparently, from what you say (and more importantly do not say), that is what it will remain. To what end? What about the effects of such a tremendous assertion, when no one else can either confirm or disprove it to any degree? You are obliging us either to believe or disbelieve you, just on your say-so, on a very specific technical matter of the highest imaginable importance. This is a rather ironical situation for you of all people to generate.
 
Either we are expected to believe this material, or not: but in any case, there is no viable information offered with which we can manufacture any sort of reasonable, informed opinion. Please correct me wherever you think I am inaccurate in my assessments, as I making an effort to be as precise as possible.
 
As I comprehend it, there is only an unknown secretive personís version of events to go on with here, given to you for whatever motive, and offered to us at third hand, and all this regarding one of the direst problems of the human race. Then there is the very important question of the dangerousness of this information. Countless people throughout history have been willing to sacrifice their lives for others, if necessary, for far less than something as truly terrible as THIS operation. And are we to believe that many people (microbiologists in particular, I take it?) have already been imprisoned and murdered for this cause without a single one of them ever managing to transmit even a smidgeon of usable data to the public? This seems to me a statistically unlikely sequence of events, although I can see that it is not impossible. But such a portentous contention as this is requires substantiation at all costs.
 
The problem is not that any of this is impossible, but that we have no way of doing anything useful with what so far adds up to yet another irresolvable quandary. Surely as a scientist you can see the intellectual predicament you present to us with this claim? After all, many of us do not belong to any particular sect of the Church of Many Chemtrail Theories. Rather, we are an ad hoc congress of profoundly concerned citizens who prefer making the effort to think for ourselves, based on whatever kinds of reasonable evidence we can find. And while belief and blind faith have their ordained places in our lives, this investigation of a scientific fact as deadly serious as unregulated aerosol operations is most definitely not one of them.
 
Let me reiterate. I do not know, and none of the rest of us out here can know, whether what you have reported happens in fact to be true, or not. No one familiar with you and your work could ever doubt your sincerity. But there is no way many of us can know what to do with such a presentation as this, except to ask a number of questions to which you firmly assert there will be no reply. Therefore I must ask you: what are we supposed to do with this material? The bombshell has dropped and duly exploded, but as to its origin, history, and ultimate purpose we remain completely in the dark. And yet you know better than most that for all practical purposes, without a chain of evidence, viable data do not even exist.
 
You wrote: "It is expected that any statements of this nature will always be subject to analysis, interpretation and scrutiny, as they should be. My primary role here is to make the information from this meeting available, as I am aware of the circumstances surrounding it. CEC"
 
My point yet again is that there is no possibility I can see at present of anyone else effectively analyzing or interpreting these statements. You refer to information you have made available, but I remain completely puzzled as to where the actual information resides. As I understand the meaning of the word, information refers to something that can be verified objectively by others, at least to some degree. Therefore, do statements that are, according to you, devoid of all hope of confirmation, even fit the basic definition of information- that is, as far as we are concerned? I fail to see how we can in all honesty categorize enigmatic pronouncements as actual information. This is not to say that everything you have said may not turn out in the end to be genuine information. Everything you have said may constitute very real truth. I fully understand that. But just so long as it is presented to us in the form of impenetrable, unverifiable mystery, then mystery is the category it belongs in. If you find my reasoning faulty, I would appreciate it if you would point out where you find I am being illogical.
 
Please do not misunderstand me. I fully concur with the following statements made by our mutual friend and highly trustworthy coworker ST, who hopefully will not mind my reproducing them here:
 
"Clifford, please do not take this as a personal attack.
 
None of us are aware of the constraints you have dealing with this information.
 
It is simply insufficient for a matter of such grave relevance.
 
You must understand that there is legitimate concern that you, and we, could become victims of a carefully crafted disinformation effort.
 
Given the full implications of this revelation, your source has no justification for not providing the conclusive evidence.
 
Doing less is simply cowardly and insincere."
 
Can you argue with what ST has said here? I cannot. And as I said, there are quite a few of us with these same kinds of questions and concerns. Because we have no choice but to carefully think through every single piece of material that comes our way, regardless of its supposed or actual origin, in respect to the monumental subject of what is being done to the atmosphere of our planet. There is not one of us who has ever been above and beyond sharply pointed questioning by the rest of us. And this is, as you have said yourself, just as it should be.
 
Respectfully, Diane

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