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Ebay - Things To Consider
By Anonymous
3-22-4


Hi Jeff,
 
Ever since I read on Rense.com about eBay's 'flexible' privacy policy, wherein they will hand over all manner of personal information on its buyers & sellers to any 'investigator' who asks (no court order required), I've been more than a little suspicious of them. http://www.rense.com/general41/bb.htm
 
One of eBay's policies attempts to control the personal property of its sellers even after an auction has ended (under the guise of 'protecting the consumer'). It's called 'off-site selling' and it works like this:
 
Let's say you decide to sell a widget on eBay, opening bid $5. The auction ends and no one bids on it. Now, a reasonable person might think that you could then do whatever you like with your widget. It's yours, after all. But not according to eBay.
 
OK, let's say I am looking for a widget. I don't see any on eBay in the active auctions, so I look in the completed auctions. There, lo and behold, is a widget - your widget - and exactly the type of widget I am looking for. Since no one bid on it, I'm thinking that it's likely still available.
 
So, I email you. Would you please sell me your widget? I even offer you the same price of your opening bid.
 
But guess what? According to eBay policy, you're not allowed to directly sell me your widget. Nope. According to eBay, because I learned of your widget through eBay, you must relist your item (paying usual eBay fees, of course) and then I can bid on it if I wish. So your widget isn't really your widget anymore, after it's been listed on eBay.
 
I should mention that their written policy is somewhat ambigious:
 
"eBay prohibits email offers to buy or sell listed items outside of the eBay site."
 
Nowhere does eBay define "listed items". I would have thought a "listed item" was one that was currently listed, not one that had, at one point in time, EVER been listed on eBay.
 
So I phoned them for clarification (their phone number is listed nowhere on their site, but a net search turned it up: 1-800-322-9266). The customer service rep sounded a little confused. First he told me that 'proper etiquette' meant that I could not buy an item that had ever been on auction on eBay directly from the seller, if I'd learned of the item through eBay.
 
Never mind proper etiquette, I said, was it against eBay policy to do so? The answer was, yes. So there you have it.
 
And speaking of eBay 'protecting the consumer', there are plenty of complaints on various forums about eBay's failure to do just that.
 
Here's one example:
 
Ebay is full of dishonest people. Here is what happened to me.
 
I had a perfect feedback for selling and buying. However only a 55 in feedback amount [number of people who had left feedback]. I had a auction going great, the best ever until a power seller decided to have fun with my auction. He used 2 different IDs to do this. He used a sniper to snipe my auction items at the last second.
 
Then he emailed me saying if I did not make him a pillow exactly like the one (and only one) he did not bid on and sell it to him off eBay, he wouldn't pay for any of the items. He let me know that the other person bidding on the rest of my items was none other than him! I told him as it stated in my ad, all the pillows are original, I cannot make a copy of one. I would make a similar one and put it up for auction.
 
He emailed me back, saying "That won't do, you will not get any money for the items I bid on and I will enjoy giving you negative feedback because you only have a 55 and I have 2800, so your negative feedback to me will not even be noticed."
 
Then he continued to email me with vulgar emails, calling me a "f...ing b...." Then he calls my house and threatens me!
 
Meanwhile I am reporting all of this to eBay, sending the email, filling out the appropriate forms, and the response I get from eBay is there is not enough evidence to do anything about this guy.
 
Okay, so now I am just a little frightened about the phone calls, so I take my number down from eBay just to prevent this from every happening again. I did not know that was a reason for automatic suspension. Ironically, eBay does not have to post a telephone number to contact them with. You have to search the internet for their phone numbers!!! But, now my account is indefinitely suspended for trying to protect myself and this guy is still having fun I'm sure doing the same thing to others with other IDs...
 
I have protested by email, by phone, filled out all the forms, online chat, everything I can think of, but eBay sends back form letters that have nothing to do with my request.
 
eBay is unresponsive to its customers and protects dishonest sellers. It may change someday as long as we all continue to try to do something about the wrongs they are doing and not just say, what's the use. Believe me, I will not let this wrong done to me drop.
 
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