- First Word: In another era, Eustace Mullins ,81, would
be a public resource. After his service in the Air Force in WWII, he went
to work at the Library of Congress in Washington, DC. DC was a small town
in those days and Eustace was a bright, curious and unassuming country
boy with a bit of the bon vivant in him. As such, he came into contact
with many of the movers and shakers of the day and ate, drank and conversed
with them. He has more first-hand information about post-WWII Washington
and its inhabitants than most anyone else alive today.
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- He was also in the thick of the fray of the Communist
trials in those days, as he worked for Joe McCarthy as a researcher. That
alone keeps him smeared in these politically-correct days. His longtime
friendship with Ezra Pound, who hired Mullins to research and write the
definitive history of the founding of the Federal Reserve System, serves
to finalize judgment in the minds of his uninformed detractors.
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- One doesn't really have a conversation with Eustace.
You do your best to corral what he'll impart, and he's willing to answer
whatever you ask to the best of his ability. If you have any questions
after reading this, his contact info is at the end. Get in touch with him.
For 55 years, he's been researching the very questions that most of us
reading this have been asking in the wake of 9/11/01.
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- Eustace Mullins has been painted as many things by his
detractors, many of whom have no idea what the word "patriot"
actually means beyond the title of the Act that's almost made patriotism
illegal. Agree or disagree with Eustace's conclusions, his detractors have
never been able to paint him as a liar.
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- J: These are troubling days. What do you say when people
ask "What can I do?"
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- E: People often ask me that question, implying that they
don't know what to do. That's not true. People know what they're supposed
to do. They're actually begging the question when they ask me that. What
they're really saying is, "I don't really want to do anything, but
you're going to get me off the hook by telling me I should do this or that
and then I'll tell you I can't do this or that", and that frees them
from having to do anything.
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- J: What have you done?
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- E: I'd always wanted to be a writer, so that's what I
did. It's an educational operation, both for the writer and the reader.
Whether you're writing poetry, essays, articles, books, songs or what have
you, imparting what you may have learned is important.
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- J: Have you been surprised by any events in the post-9/11
world?
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- E: I wasn't surprised by anything that happened before
9/11, so nothing afterwards has surprised me (laughs). 9/11 was a natural
occurrence, much like other terrorist operations that preceeded it - the
OKC bombing, the Waco Holocaust and the Ruby Ridge Massacre. These were
all steps in a program and there's nothing surprising about them at all.
They were intelligence operations, financed by the Money Powers. Intelligence
is the heart and soul of banking, as the financiers must have complete
knowledge and when necessary, initiate events to steer things their way.
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- The mantra after 9/11 was "This changes everything."
Utter nonsense. It changed nothing. Office buildings got knocked down,
nothing changed. The Pentagon got hit, nothing changed.
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- Rumsfeld was supposedly sitting at his desk, working,
when the Pentagon got hit. Why was the Secretary of Defense sitting at
his desk an hour after the country came under attack?
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- It was no accident that Bush was absent from DC and Cheney
was in the White House during the operation. They had to keep Bush out
of the loop so he wouldn't screw it up.
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- J: You worked with Robert Kennedy in Joe McCarthy's office,
correct?
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- E: We both worked for Joe, yes. Bobby was one of the
biggest snobs I met in my time in DC, being noveau riche. People born to
generations of money aren't snobs, for the most part. But Bobby Kennedy
was a little slump kid. He was a strait-laced Boston Irish-Catholic boy,
which is why he hated the homosexual J. Edgar Hoover so much. Just for
the record, Hoover started his time in Washington as a deck attendant at
the Library of Congress, the same job I held there. It's rarely referred
to, and hardly anyone knows it.
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- Hoover was very insecure about his appearance as some
in DC thought he had black ancestry. He was very Negroid in his facial
structure and was quite touchy about it. It might be why he hated Martin
Luther King so much. (laughs)
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- By the way, e.e. cummings was the first choice for JFK's
inaugural speech, but he turned it down. e.e. told me himself the day he
refused the offer. Robert Frost was the second choice, the bitter old bastard.
Ezra gave him his first break in the late teens or early twenties and afterwards,
Frost had nothing to do with him again.
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- The official government story regarding Frost and Pound
is that Frost, out of gratitude to Ezra for Ezra's role in Frost's early
career, got Ezra out of St. Elizabeth's. Frost had nothing to do with it.
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- Ezra got out of St. Elizabeth's because a Congressman
named Usher Burdick, at the behest of a fellow named Rex Lampman (Lampman's
father owned a Fargo newspaper that helped to get Burdick elected), got
up on the floor of the Congress and asked "Why is this man being held?".
Burdick knew nothing of Ezra Pound, but he did some digging and found out
that America's greatest living poet had been held in a mental hospital
for 13 years with no trial {1}. It was through Burdick's efforts and not
Frost's that Ezra was released{2}.
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- J: Do you vote?
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- E: No. Who is there to vote for?
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- J: Do you vote locally?
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- E: No. I still consider the state of Virginia to be occupied
territory. That's how these folks operate. They never want occupation to
end. Rutherford Hayes ran on a platform of ending occupation of the South,
as he'd been a Union general and knew how cruel occupation is.
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- Look at Germany and Japan. That war's been over for almost
60 years and they're still occupying them. They'll never leave Iraq willingly
for the same reason, unless they can take the oil with them. (laughs)
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- One of the thrusts of occupation is population manipulation.
The occupation of Germany and Japan stunted the generation that survived,
both mentally and physically. Millions of German civilians died under Allied
occupation and the ones that survived were malnourished and easily manipulated.
It's a form of genocide and population control.
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- But the occupiers never end occupation if they don't
have to. Occupation is a great way to own and control a hostile country
and its resources. It's captivity and slavery.
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- Americans love their captivity. There's no responsibility.
When you're a captive, you don't have to make a decision about anything,
though you have no Liberty. People don't want Liberty. Liberty is nothing
but uncertainty. It's much easier to have someone tell you where you'll
be, what you'll do and who you'll pay tomorrow than to worry about it yourself.
The same goes for what you think.
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- J: What's your opinion of the Jewish Holocaust?
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- E: It wasn't really an issue until the late '50's. All
of the sudden, they remembered that six million Jews died in WWII. I've
often said that after six million Jews died, most of them went on to own
apartments in Manhattan and Tel Aviv. It's not really a topic that interests
me much beyond how it's used as propaganda and mind control.
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- J: Let's touch on "anti-semitism" and how it's
used to smear people...
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- E: I first came up against it when I published my first
book, <a href="http://aor.cat4.net/nwo/sfr/">"Secrets
of the Federal Reserve"</a>. The Anti-Defamation League immediately
attacked it as "anti-Semitic" and said that I was an "anti-Semite".
There's not a word about Jews in the whole book. As a matter of fact, the
first review and push for my book was made by a Hollywood Jew named <a
href="http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/myronfaganbio.shtml">Myron
Fagan</a>. I didn't meet him for another ten years, but he was the
first person to promote my book, both on his radio show and in his newsletters.
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- When I did meet him, he looked like the stereotypical
Jew. He was no Jewish aristocrat, that's for sure. He was a hell of a nice
guy. He really suffered for his efforts in educating people as to the danger
facing America and the world. He grew to dislike and mistrust his fellow
Jewish screenwriters in Hollywood because they were so phony, and they
grew to mistrust him as he exposed their Communistic allegiances.
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- I used to drink with Sandy Griffith, one of the ADL's
lead researchers, back in those days. We had a great time. They'd call
us "anti-Semites" and then drink with us. Go figure. Sandy brought
the best wines. As I recall, Sandy's real last name was Scheffer.
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- It came out later that the ADL was behind much of the
National Renaissance Party, the "right wing" extremists of the
'50's. I had no idea at the time.
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- J: Have you ever been in contact with Ernst Zundel?
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- E: Oh yes. Ernst is a great guy, a regular gemütlichkeit
German. Overnight he went from being a successful and obscure artist to
one of the worst anti-Semites on the planet. That's what you get for loudly
questioning the "official" line. God love him.
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- J: Zundel was arrested right after the Immigration and
Naturalization Service fell under the auspices of the Department of Homeland
Security...
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- E: I'm not surprised. Tom Ridge is worthless. He'll do
anything they'll tell him to do. He'd go to the White House and shoot Bush
if he was told to. He wouldn't want to, but he'd do it. He's the typical
faceless, controlled bureaucrat.
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- J: Do you have Internet access or a computer?
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- E: No. I don't have time to get on the net. So many guys
are on that thing talking for eight and twelve hours a day to other guys
in Chicago and Tokyo or what have you. I wouldn't get anything done. I'm
working to get six of my books reprinted: Curse of Canaan, My Life in Christ,
This Difficult Individual Ezra Pound, The World Order, Secrets of the Federal
Reserve and The Rape of Justice.
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- J: Has anyone ever tried to get you involved in questionable
activities?
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- E: About thirty years ago, which was the lowest point
in my life as it was after my mother died, a man came to town and wanted
me to kill Henry Kissinger. He said that he knew Kissinger's "mistress
schedule" in LA and that they'd fly me out there and put me up for
a week before the hit. I never considered it as I could see the headlines:
"Extremist Gunned Down In Plot To Kill Kissinger".
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- J: How's your health?
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- E: I just got back from the doctor and he said I could
probably go another twenty years. I feel like I'm 17. [Interviewer's note:
I took Eustace to lunch at an all-you-can eat place and he put a respectable
dent in the food bar. Two hours later, we went to a birthday party for
one of his family members. He ate another huge plate of food. Age certainly
doesn't affect his appetite.]
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- J: Didn't someone try to stick you in a nursing home
recently?
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- E: My brother decided that he wanted my assets and tried
to get me declared unfit. It took the efforts of my nephews and others
to get me out and to regain legal control of my assets again. Two licensed
psychologists have judged me mentally sound and I have no intention of
letting any of that happen again.
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- J: Do you have any words for the ADL, as they're probably
going to read this?
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- E: Beyond congratulating them for having a great little
protection racket going, no.
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- J: How can folks get in touch with you?
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- E: Call or write anytime.
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- Eustace Mullins
- 126 Madison Place
- Staunton, Va. 24401
- 540-886-5580
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- J: Are you still optimistic for the future of Liberty
in America?
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- E: More optimistic than ever. The enemies of Liberty
have painted themselves into a corner. They have committed so many gross
indecencies, indelicacies and frauds that it's all coming to a head. I
look for a great cleansing Spirit to come up in the next few years.
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- I've been optimistic my whole life. If anyone shouldn't
be optimistic, it should be me. I've had eighty years of deprivation and
marginalization in my own country that most people wouldn't be able to
endure. I have Faith.
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- Notes
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- {1}. Ezra Pound was accused of treason for taking aid
from Mussolini in the form of an international radio station from Il Duce.
Pound spent the majority of his broadcats reaming and railing against the
international Money Cartel, and urged his listeners to find one thing in
his broadcasts that went against the US Constitution. These broadcasts
are available in the book Ezra Pound Speaking (1978), edited by Leonard
Doob.
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- On a side note, Vladimir Jabotinsky and Menachem Begin
also received much material aid from Mussolini up until the late 1930's.
Jabotinsky is known as the "Father of the Israeli Defense Forces"
and Begin later became Prime Minister of Israel. Apparently, they didn't
commit the treason against the Bankers that Pound did.
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- {2}. http://www.pbagalleries.com/catalogs/curcat99-3.html</a>:
(Pound, Ezra) Congressman Usher Burdick's four office file folders of Pound
& other correspondence relating to the attempted & finally successful
release of Ezra Pound from St. Elizabeths Hospital, where he was condemned
for insanity after his pre-trial hearing for treason. Includes letters
from Ezra Pound, & from his wife, Dorothy, a group of photographs of
Pound, press clippings, letters from Pound to Burdick's legislative assistant,
Laura Page Knudson, letters to & from Burdick regarding the release
of Pound (both before & after, incl. the original letter from Rex Lampman
of Hollywood asking Burdick to get involved in the first place, & a
couple of letters from poet Witter Bynner, signed), copy of the 1945 Grand
Jury report against Pound, printing of the original Resolution submitted
to Congress for his release (1957), copy of a transcript of an interview
with Pound by the Canadian Broadcasting Corp., copy of the congratulatory
telegram sent by Burdick to the Pounds on their voyage back to Italy, 2
copies of The Library of Congress Legislative Reference Service 53-page
report by Hal Seiber on "The Medical, Legal, Literary and Political
Status of Ezra Weston [Loomis] Pound," 1958, etc. Various places:
various dates. Generally covering the years 1957-58, this is the unique
record of the workings of Ezra Pound's release from the mental hospital
to which he was condemned after being declared incapable of standing trial
for treason in 1946. Pound had been arrested and shipped back to the U.S.
after making inflammatory statements on a daily basis on Italian radio,
attacking Roosevelt and extolling Mussolini and Facism. Pound was sent
to St. Elizabeths Hospital for 12 years, longer than convicted traitors
Tokyo Rose and Alger Hiss spent in jail, and it was only with the help
of Congressman Burdick that Pound's case was finally taken up (under the
commonly held belief that Pound was, in fact, not insane). The generally
ornery letters from Pound to Burdick's assistant cast him in a harsh light:
From May 12, 1958, Pound writes: "I have always regarded package words
as a pest. Notably the idiotic term "anti-Semitism", and repeatedly
said it was idiotic to attack Jews while leaving intact an infamous swindle
which they understood better than uncorrelated goyim. I see no reason why
the highly sensitized sephadim [sic] should be held responsible for the
brutal savagery of the khazars...I shd/ like some time to list some of
the curious acts occurring under the reign of Roosevelt (F.D.) probably
to be known to future generations as `THE Calamity.'...Rome Daily American
unreliable / reporter probably misunderstood what I said. Without exact
date, impossible to determine, if this occurred after I had been put OFF
the air, by Italian government. Against which I protested, and got back
on. To do what I considered my duty in warning the U.S. against Roosevelt's
hysteria." Burdick was very interested in the causes of people being
"railroaded" into mental institutions, and he saw Pound's case
as a seminal example, one that would be easily thrown into the spotlight.
Most of Pound's letters signed "Ez Pound", all T.Ls.s. with holograph
corrections. A fascinating group of letters, photographs, clippings, reports,
and more. An article on the case from the Dec. 1994 Smithsonian is also
included. (5000/8000).
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- Dyer is a researcher and writer living in Occupied Virginia.
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- From Henry Makow
- Exposing Feminism and the New World Order
- http://www.savethemales.ca
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