- Dear Jeff,
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- Here are some transcript excerpts of an interview with
ball lightning phenomena expert Robert Golka from: Robert Golka & 'Project
Tesla' - A pioneer of Tesla research.
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- Robert Golka, PhD, is a scientist best known for his
research into ball lightning and his attempts to replicate the high voltage
experiments of Nikola Tesla.
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- The interview was made by Scott Davis, News Producer
for KTVK Phoenix for a documentary on the Mexican Air Force UFO incident.
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- Mr. Golka reviewed the Flir footage and then made his
comments on the images. Time codes included.
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- Interview to Mr. Robert Golka courtesy of Scott Davis
©2004 Scott Davis
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- Robert Golka: :10 I found out what ball lightning is
b/c it's definitely not an atomic phenomenon, it's a chemical phenomenon,
partly combustion, partly electrostatic fields that will cleverly pull
these particles together and hold them for long periods of times and you
get this glowing ba- :25
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- (camera cuts) (talking about following Tesla's work)
(Flir video rolling behind him now)
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- 2:13 you sent me some video and i looked at it. i haven't
seen the full half-hour of it but what little i have seen of it,
- 2:21 first of all ball lightning is generally in the
visible spectrum.. you see it and these were definitely not visible to
the pilot.
- 2:29 so that makes me feel that this is some other
kind of phenomenon it isn't ball lightning.
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- 2:34 i've only heard of one case where ball lightning
followed a plane during flight and it was visible off the wing and maybe
very closely attached to the wing-- i don't know i can't even substantiate
that story but that's --
- 2:50 i've been collecting data in this area for 38
years and i- i have never heard of anything like this that's related to
ball lightning
- 2:56 i've heard of ball lightning coming into aircraft
through a cockpit window and transferring charge through the plastic and
the dialect which is waht the window is made of, and rolling down the aisle
of a commercial aircrat and this has happened a number of itmes
- 3:11 so if it were that type of phenomenon i would say
yes that would be ball lightning but this is totally different, these things
appeared, disappeared, followed the plane, were invisible to the human
spectrum, this has gotta be something different or a strange type of ball
lightning that we've never heard of before but i kind of doubt that.
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- 3:33 there's a lot of unknowns out there that we don't
understand and you've gotta keep an open mind and say yes, this could be
very real but we don't understand it and then try to put the pieces together
from other case histories where this might have happened before 3:49 so
i'm gonna start looking now for case histories where these things might
have been seen on radar, only seen with infrared cameras
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- ( Tesla again...... ).
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- 4:27 ben franklin talked about ball lightning in some
of his writings. at that time.... etc etc
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- (more about ben franklin, electricity, etc))
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- 6:23 ball lightning is a gaseous discharge, or very
simple, simply stated it's kind of like the gas in a neon tube on a neon
sign or a fluorescent lamp,
- =6:33 it's electrical discharge, electrical discharge
is ajust a breakdown of air where the air conductivity becomes as good
or better than a copper piece of wire, a copper wire and so that's what
makes the efficient arclights that we see on an automobiles now, you notice
the headlights are much brighter. the headlights are rated at 37 watts
that's the legal limit but by using a discharge lamp working at 37 watts
you get more light output per watt so they're much brighter and that's
basically what ball lightning is made up of, the discharge
- 7:15 but the thing is, it has no wires, it's generally
started from a lightning strike from a cloud to the ground and ... it closes
in on itself and forms a ball and sustains or holds its energy and gives
it off gradually
- 7:31 so the energy shows up as a discharge or light-giving
source but it's contained in a spherical confinement
- 7:39 now this is great science, because no one's every
done this before in a lab.
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- like an onion, layers of charge...
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- 8:19 it's kind of like a water, garden hose you passing
water through the garden hose, as longa s you don't go over the bursting
pressure of the walls of the garden hose then the water will stay inside..
uh
- 8:32 electrostatically you can have a spherical sphere
that will keep energetic particles contained inside that sphere or layer
- 8:43 an example of that, you've ever gone swimming
you notice warm currents and cold currents? how does that happen? why doesn't
it all mix? well it's because the particles are moving and they don't transfer
across the boundary layer
- 8:56 there's a boundary layer that prevents, because
the particles are moving each other, it's easier for them to go in a straight
linethan go sideways so they don't mix and that's exactly what happens
i think in ball lightning
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- 9:09 the particles are moving in one direction which
is in that onion layer and they just keep moving in that onion layer and
they don't transfer sideways inward or outward and
- 9:20 there are a number of these layers and this can
hold energy because...
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- 9:24 ball lightning has been seen to bounce on the floor
and get smaller each time, each bounce and then go off with a pop. sometimes
the whole thing goes at one time in an explosion which can damage things
in a room, so
- 9:37 these are cases that have been written up and because
there've been so many very similar cases and documented well say, probability,
this is good science, if these things actually can explode like a stick
of dynamite, if it goes all at once that tells you there's some type of
layering mechanism that lets go all at once.
- 9:59 because other times it just goes, it gets a little
smaller and ther'es a slight pop as each layer dis.. collapses so uh..
there's a lot of things if you look in the data, and there's thousands
of cases of ball lightning, good sightings by reputable people that would
have no reason to want to get publicity or anything, this i really feel
happened to these people and they tell you, it bounces and get smaller
and smaller
- 10:26
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- ((continues to talk about his own cousin who saw it))
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- 11:12 i feel there's a lot of varieties of ball lightning,
there's not just one kind of combustion or phenomenon. (and this isn't
that?)
- 11:20 i don't feel that this is it, with what little
information i have, i'd like to talk with these people in mexico and find
out for sure if there was lightning storms in the area the planes were
flying in, or anything but from what i've gleaned form the experience so
far i kind of doubt it
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- 11:37 especially where it doesn't show up visually for
the... you know if it's infrared it's gotta be something else we don't
know about
- 11:44 and i don't know it........
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- (talks about getting interested, radio tower, finding
the guys and experimenting more etc)
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