- Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed
is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.
- Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R)
and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous
man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get
this information out to people.
- The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones'
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- Note: All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life
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- The Bush Junta Unmasked
- "This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the
attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton
- Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for
911 taxpayers' lawsuit
- Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription
- AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief
of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of
the victims families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11.
Now a major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was
involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the next
hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with us.
- SH: Glad to be on.
- AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour,
but just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot
of military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what
is your case alleging?
- SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice
and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved
not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually
ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some
very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally
ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to pursue
a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking
in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went
to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in
the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so
I know these people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all
of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn
the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl
Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at least 35
- AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers
of a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up here in America.
Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million
dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involved.
- SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
- AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new
and incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?
- SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class
action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic
three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event.
And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31
of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and fraudulent evidence
to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization. And, of course, he related
it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was involved with that, and all these
- AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to
break. Let's come back and get into the evidence. BREAK
- AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th,
2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's
an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of staff,
political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others,
he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a dictatorship using
a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the U.S. government for carrying
out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims' families signing onto it - it's
a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations
just joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida
and all over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let's
get into the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are being harassed
by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been blowing
the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell
us all about it.
- SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing
9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had
a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover
agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on
Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an
FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert
operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered.
We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this
effect. It's not just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent.
The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point,
there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested
and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos showed that Andrew
Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to
kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal.
These people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated
videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later
at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, "seen
on television the first plane attack the first tower." And that could
not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated
video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered
thing. We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans'
rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting
a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war,
for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering
Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity. And I've been harassed
personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me
personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after
30 years on the court. I've been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been
harassed and threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the
kind of government we are dealing with.
- AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate
drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you
told us about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying
to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed military
people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get out ahead
of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we've learned that all these
operations - I want to get into that, I want to talk about the new incriminating
evidence of ordering it and how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was
in the bunker controlling this. That has even come out in the mainstream
news but they won't release the details of that, Stanley. But what type
of FBI harassment are you going through? SH: First of all, my office was
burglarized in San Francisco several months ago. Files were gone through
and some files were seized - particularly the ones dealing with the lady
that was married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies
in a hidden place so nothing disappeared permanently. But more significantly,
FBI agents have been harassing one of my staff members and threatening
them with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And it's just
total harassment. They have planted a spy, an undercover agent, in my organization,
as we just recently discovered. In other words, these are Nazi Germany
tactics. This is the kind of government you have in this country. This
is what Bush is all about.
- AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff.
We'll come back after this quick break. Please stay with us. BREAK
- AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second
hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief
of staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out
9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I first
really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw him attacked
on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention. And then he kind
of went underground for a while because a judge, we're going to talk about
that, ordered him to not do any more interviews. And now he's back doing
interviews. He's had his office broken into, FBI threats and harassment.
Bottom line, he has deposed military individuals, wives of hijackers, you
name it, it was a government operation. It has even come out in mainstream
news, a piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why
NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton
has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation. And
I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's got so
much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the University of
Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government could use terrorist
attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for the time and folks wondered
why he disappeared for a while and just did his lawsuit and wasn't doing
interviews, it was because he was ordered to. Stanley, can you get into
that for us?
- SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March
of 2003, about a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that,
I was contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court
where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but to keep
it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet until a
couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some programs and some
publicity and July 1st, I was threatened directly by the chief judge here,
threatened with court discipline. This particular judge has been circulating
communiqués to the other federal judges seeking anything negative
she can get against me to try and discipline me after I've been on the
court here for 30 years with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly
happening. And her assistants who are on the committee of the court met
with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly.
They handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to
dismiss this. What's this? She doesn't like the content of it. This is
politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I represented more
than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this case? And they threatened
me directly and they said, "the next time you'll be disciplined."
And also they've threatened me not to go public, etc. And this is just
- AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all
in your face.
- SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's
because of the political content of the suit but they told me directly
on the phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very
angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department.
I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months ago about
this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds
of things. I refused to drop it. AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them
break into your office, harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
- SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The
file cabinets - it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were
stolen. Files dealing with this particular case and particularly with the
documents I had regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers,
at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover
FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S. And,
in effect, all this led up to the effect that al Qaeda is a creation of
the George Bush administration, basically. That the entity that he called
al Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen.
Fortunately, I had copies. But this was just part of the harassment. The
FBI has also been harassing some of my assistants and has planted a spy
in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being
used - and the obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And
that's what's happening under the tremendous pressure here to just drop
it. Or to shut up now and just go away.
- AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop.
Let's talk about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what really
happened, the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this,
they were simulating this which they now admit there were simulations on
that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you to talk about, Stanley.
- SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness
sworn statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc.,
that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force
that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for
9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times.
He blurted this out at a press conference in California a few months after
9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the first plane hit the first building
on the video. And that's not possible because there was no official video
of that. There was one of the second plane not the first one. He had seen
the first one. We do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally
ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted
on tape that he was there the night before - September 10th, that is
- AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911
Commission, admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post
already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This
is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on
the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people.
They said there were drills that morning and exactly what happened, happening
- that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead
of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that morning.
Now, we've learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these
- one drill with the exact same thing happening that actually happened,
at the exact same time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood down with
24 different blips on the screen. You've said this. You brought this up
first. Now, I know you can't get too much into detail but can you tell
us how you learned of this?
- SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air
Force. I personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I
worked for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain
at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as
well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point is,
yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over at least
two months before September 11th. Everything was planned, the exact location
- AJ: But five drills that day.
- SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill.
That's the only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant
- AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic
controllers going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"
- SH: Yes.
- AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it
was, quote, a drill.
- SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before
it became public. I've known about this since earlier in March of '03,
as I stated before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the
attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction
of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit
a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court. Even a chief
judge in this court tried to harass and threaten me personally for representing
legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath
about Paula Jones and now - look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used
to be across from me in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it´s
interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we
have a far worse criminal sitting in the oval office today - somebody guilty
of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
- AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a
plan to fly planes into buildings - said it all over television - Rice,
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running
all these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that proves
they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
- SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've
been trying to take their depositions for months. They've been trying to
object to it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or now.
It's clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what
they are. These are the people that we have running this government and,
of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now that they
didn't know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody knew anything.
It's the old know-nothing mentality. And how anybody considers this believable
is beyond me.
- AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge organization,
how could the AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas before,
if your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s
on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year and
a half ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The military, good
people, were told this was all a drill. And it was not a drill. And ABC
News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] out of the White House [?]
and that he ordered the military to quote "do something." Our
inside sources from Hilton and others say it was a stand down and they
admit they will not release that under national security. Stanley?
- SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to
release it in the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers
and they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name
of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse
the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress. And
under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must release this
information. That's why they are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade
my office, steal my files, commit blatant obstruction of justice and other
crimes to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals
and their acts of treason and mass murder.
- AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you
are not planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
- SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family
and I'm not planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but
I can tell you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff.
And particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own
- AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year
of being under the radar? SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've
been adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that
this was now without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts
to the biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean
George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict
Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what we have - a criminal
and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending he's a patriot, wrapping
himself in the flag. And it's pretty disgusting because the other side
of the so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because
they're afraid to speak.
- AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
- AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or
16 minutes. Then he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most
of them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I
was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - "I
had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he called
the night before and said don't go to work." You know, all of this,
and then now they never had any idea - and it turns out they had all these
drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center
and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning - come on people! And
Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show before it was in the mainstream
news. And I was talking to him during the break. I mean, the harassment,
the moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge threatening him. Stanley,
let's get specifically into the documents that you have now got that they
have now been robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.
Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us - ordering
9/11? SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled]
and it's was part of a series of documents that were involved with the
drill documents. This was all planned - they had it on videotape. These
planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a year
and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip
in the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the military
ground control, to disable the pilot's control of the plane and to control
it and to fly it directly into those towers. That's what happened. It's
also a technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft
drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking
about National Security Council classified documents that clearly indicated
that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this is no drill.
These drills that were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this
was a government operation. You wonder why these people are trying to threaten
people and trying to intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess
if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt
Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions
more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got something to
worry about and you want to threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
- AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress
rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and
doesn't know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream
news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these drills,
quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control - this is decades
old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and using them for target
practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia.
So since that's going on, everybody knows that. And it's the same MO. Just
like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded
men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above a pizza parlor.
And they set them up as the patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb, trains
the drivers. This informant goes, "You're not going to bomb the building?
They go "Yeah, we're letting it go forward." He tapes them to
protect themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank God, didn't park
it up against the column, as the FBI instructed them to do, so it didn't
bring down the tower - because you have to be right up against the column.
That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11. You've got these
CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola
Naval Air Station - mainstream media, out creating their legends for this
background. They're on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve
gas kills everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they fly
the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is that accurate?
- SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into -
that nerve gas or something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't
say for sure to be honest with you
- AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they
were on board and the planes were remote controlled.
- SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the
events of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a
plant. It was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background.
And it's called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus
on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing
on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it must have
been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania
Avenue - sitting in the oval office. That's the guilty person. That's the
one who authorized it. There is only one man who could have authorized
this operation and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I
have been told personally at NORAD in the war control room, there is only
one man who has the power to do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even
though many believe he's a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The
fact of the matter is where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors.
The fact is Bush personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's
going to be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled]
for Bush. AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial
complex that carried out the attacks.
- SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining
the official government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These
Arabs couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.
- AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up. BREAK
- AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when
you talk to these military men and women, what's their attitude? They've
got to be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually
happened on 9/11.
- SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm
in the sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged
at the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the government
to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And
many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk
under subpoena - but only under subpoena because the official party line
of the government is shut up and don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more
and more, they are very outraged that part of the government has done this
to its own people, to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin
to see something - not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have
to look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious
gains. Also we've got - we have a Stalinist mentality in this country.
And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag,
it's disgusting. I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television
network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow,
on September 11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks
ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course, the America media don't care
so they are not going to care. But in Japan, people are very serious in
interviewing me and others. And we have a website now, called deprogram.info,
if more people are interested: www.deprogram.info. But the other thing,
I just wanted to say that if anything happens to me - and I don't know
why - because I'm being threatened here now. And it seems you can't bring
a case in this country anymore against criminals in power without being
threatened. And this is how they operate. The stakes are pretty high when
you've got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this government
against it's own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
- AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd,
definitely intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have
carried out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up to,
if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and many others.
And then their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks in it now.
Thanks to good people like yourself and many others who are speaking out
and telling the truth. But do you think that they may carry out what they've
been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a biological release to try to smokescreen
all of this? I know it's a catch 22, you've got to expose the murderers.
We've got to get the word out on this but some government people that I've
talk to say, "Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even
more hard core and must totally try to take over." But I say regardless,
they are already doing that. So what do you say to that?
- SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have
contingency plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an
increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging them
and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done it
again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what they would
like to do is silence any dissenters. That's why we are trying to get the
Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit also.
- AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot
is a scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds,
the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You
are one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped
on the hand grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who
is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the government was
involved. When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that the
U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high as 76% in polls
believe the government was involved. European polls, two- thirds show the
same thing. We have German defense ministers and technology ministers and
another member of their government now, three of them going public, known
conservatives, and progressives. You have an environment minister, Michael
Meacher, saying that if they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew what
was going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking person looks at the evidence,
their official story is impossible. Then you investigate and they are involved
in it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's happening.
- SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act
to suppress political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they
are not dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These
are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated political
dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and their blood
brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're all for political repression.
Every corrupt and criminal government has done this - they suppress their
own people: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we
have the Patriot Act. So it's hand in hand. They had it planned to go right
up to September 11th, this was all part of the plan. You have to do it.
It was part of my senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists
attacks with a political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why
they want Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching
more terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is to
make this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue their dubious
ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal family. And also, historical
blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany and the Communist Russian. That's
- AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted
to also tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're
against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media being
arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000
plus people put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms.
You had to have permission to go to the porta-potties. Police screaming
at you. It had nothing to do with terrorism. They are openly setting the
precedent for martial law.
- SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being
overly broad and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like
the word communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt.
And anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony
is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White House
at the oval office today. That's the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I
think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe
It or Not, and the Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery
- AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is
the experience that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching
those that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful.
It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it
is just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting America
in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced psychological testing of
every American, forced drugging, you know Pan-American unions, I mean it's
just all happening, it's in our face, Stanley.
- SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied
the theory and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert
Speer, who was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in
Munich. And I've studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism
and there is no question that it's very frightening. And it has, today,
with high technology, albeit for the first time in history, the chance
of having a world empire dominated by corrupt, technologically oriented
government - an elite government. And they've got now what people like
Napoleon and Hitler didn't have, which is the technological means to dominate
not only their own country but others - the world.
- AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to
show how PNAC [Project for the New American Century] said we need helpful
Pearl Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style
attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face this horror.
What are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half of
us, know the truth?
- SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again,
the ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people
to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their capacity
for ingenious creation of these events is sort of unraveled. I mean there
is no limit. My guess is they are going to try another stunt - maybe a
stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush reelected. Although
it seems like he is running against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway.
But, my guess is they'll try some other tactic to get people's attention
away from 9/11 if it gets to be too much attention. What you really want
is for the public to just lose interest because the public - and it's like
remember the Alamo, you know, people don't forget things like that. To
me it's like the Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for
this outrageous act of treason. That's what it is. It's not
- AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated
this much resistance, Stanley.
- SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent
as they are corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded
only by their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people
are going to get outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in
the civil service and our military, and eventually we can get people under
subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
- AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being
naïve and not recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler
and others. People couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat
succumbing to it. We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives,
our treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we cannot let
these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use us and
turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us as their slaves to
invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've
got to get to court. God bless you. I want to thank you for being here
with us today. Can we get you back on next week?
- SH: Sure, just give me a call.
- AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
- SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought
to just think about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the
White House and the danger for the future that these sorts of individuals
pose. This is not just a historical event of the past. This is part of
the plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals
are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear
and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person not only American but
in the whole world.
- AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have
captured the government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and
they are counting on us not facing up to it.
- SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act
and threats and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are
exposing them. That's what they are counting on.
- AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.
- SH: No, I'm not
- AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God
- SH: All right. Thank you.
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