- Note - The truth about the terrestrial/military
origin of many UFOs is beginning to make itself known through the efforts
of several dedicated researchers who are carefully assembling details of
top secret military technological achievements which apparently have generated
many, BUT NOT ALL, UFO sightings during the past 50 years. Controversial
British researcher and aviation expert, Tim Matthews, has been in the forefront
of bringing this material to the public. The following are several recent
net postings by Tim which illustrate the direction and depth of the research
currently underway. This is important information which will be discussed
in detail when Tim Matthews joins Jeff this Sunday evening, September 27,
from 8-11 pm Pacific.
- Sightings Radio Show - New evidence revealed!!
- Just a few hours ago I finished speaking
live with Jeff Rense, host of the very popular US "Sightings"
talk radio show. This was an important programme because it revealed new
evidence about the construction of US built flying discs at Papoose Lake
from the mid-late 1950s. One of these saucers had the designation XD-3A
and apparently utilized a radial-flow propulsion system similar to that
developed in Germany by the Project Saucer team at Breslau during the latter
days of WW2.
- I was quick to point out that our research
into German technologies has nothing to do with politics and that we were
all appalled by the war crimes committed by those involved in Third Reich
technology development programmes. Nevertheless, if these were the genesis
of some modern day "UFOs" then the truth must be told.
- One caller from Portland noted the work
of Eugene Sanger, who worked for Skoda in Czechoslovakia during the war
(no, not on third-rate cars!!) and whose pioneering work into hypersonic
stratospheric aircraft only worked it's way into US technology much later
on. The level of knowledge that callers to Jeffs' programme displayed was
indeed impressive. Another caller agreed with my analysis regarding US-built
discs but still claimed that there was an ET element involved - even if
the evidence for this was tenuous....
- The XD-3A disc was developed by a joint
USAF-Wright-Patterson-AVRO team and although the focus was on Canada the
work went on at "The Facility" south of Groom Lake - opened just
a couple of years before ostensibly to test fly the U-2 spyplane. Increased
Soviet threats to US airspace from the late 1940s appear to have prompted
the CIA, Air Force and US Navy to re-evaluate their approach to sightings
of flying disc and flying wing-type aircraft and it is likely that the
Soviet threat was made a focal point in order the ensure maximum funding
for these advanced technology programmes. Several documents now available
show an interest from several branches of the military-intelligence community
in this area and resulted in the implementation of Air Force Regulation
200-2 in 1954. All of these were quoted in detail on the programme last
- Nobody from the UFO community has yet
been able to provide me with a sensible answer as to why the Air Technical
Intelligence Center at Wright-Patterson AFB - the focal point for official
'UFO' investigations including 'Project Blue Book' from 1951 - denied all
knowledge of the nature or origins of flying discs whilst at the same time
working to perfect the technology from, specifically, 1947 through the
development of the early plans re; AVRO in 1951 to the final "Technical
Report" on "Project Silver Bug" in Feb. 1955..........
- The Jack Pickett revelations about US
discs at MacDill AFB, Florida, in 1967 were also presented for the first
time to a large American audience as were details of other classified programmes.
I briefly touched on sightings and construction of discs at China Lake
NOTS at Ridgecrest, California mainly in the hope that local people or
former workers might be able to furnish me with new leads.
- (No doubt this will give the spooks at
the Office for Naval Intelligence (ONI) something to squirm about)
- Undoubtedly there were people listening
who knew EXACTLY what I was talking about......
- I praised the work of Jan Aldrich and
his commendable efforts to approach the 'UFO' subject through the publication
and investigation of previously classified US intelligence documents and
I also noted the open-minded and supportive attitude of Peter Gersten of
Citizens Against UFO Secrecy.
- I also noted the continued work of Italian
UFO researcher Maurizio Verga; Check out their respective sites: www.iufog.org/project1947
- In fact, all were agreed that now is
the time for the Pentagon to open the Pandoras Box of US military 'UFO'
secrecy and to present the public with some much-needed truth about these
and similar programmes. How can the information on 50 years old jet-powered
discs be a National Security risk? As Jack Pickett points out, some of
these were discovered in a salvage yard in 1967 and were actually built
by Bell and Vought before 1962!!
- No doubt this new and factual angle on
the 'UFO' subject will have acted as both a reality check and shock to
the system for some listeners although I was quick NOT to rule out a possible
"ET/non-human intelligence" angle.
- If YOU have any information on these
programmes contact me, in confidence, today.
- Congratulations to Jeff Rense, an excellent
advocate for truth and freedom of information, for allowing me to present
three hours of new material to a big audience. We still have a couple of
shows worth of information to present!!
- Please add the 'Sightings' web site to
your Internet Explorer today! Its' up to date reporting gives you a wealth
of information on a variety of subjects censored by the mainstream media;
from close encounters to strange animal deaths to fluoride in water to
Y2K to military technology.........
- Contact me for further information and
in future please take advantage of the "Real Audio" links available!
- Tim Matthews - for freedom of information.
- P.O.Box 15, Southport Merseyside PR8
1GR UK email: email@example.com
- September 20, 1998
- Dear All,
- Over the last few months I have been
working with several people in order to bring out the truth behind sightings
of flying discs in the 1950s and 1960s particularly. Two of these are journalist
David Windle and aviation and photographic expert Bill Rose. 'Focus' magazine,
a widely read UK popular science publication, features on pp.56-9 of it's
October issue sensational revelations about US-built flying discs written
by the men.
- Bill Rose, by far the most knowledgeable
researcher into these classified aircraft, has now gone public with some
of what he knows.
- Points in the article of interest to
- - The existence of jet-powered pancakes
built by Vought and Bell in the 1950s. I spoke to Thomas C. Smith who,
as a Chance-Vought engineer, worked until 1946 on circular wing aircraft
including the jet version.
- - The testimony of former combat veteran
and Air Force journalist Jack Pickett who saw and investigated four older
USAF discs at MacDill AFB in 1967. He was allowed access to documents and
photographs both of older discs and information about more radical contemporary
designs. He was initially tasked to reveal the truth about the nature and
origins of these earlier discs in official AF publications - said by AF
experts to have been responsible for the early saucer flap.
- - Despite initial openness with Pickett
and his team, evidence of a change of thinking at the highest levels regarding
flying discs in 1967and the subsequent decision to maintain the cover-up
at that time. The crash of a disc operating out of Avon Park AFB was said
to be a critical factor in maintaining secrecy.
- - Evidence that the Pentagon did nothing
to discourage alien stories from 1951 when a team of aviation experts,
including Germans recruited under 'Operation Paperclip', visited A.V Rose
in Canada to start an advanced disc construction programme. 'Contactee'
stories were no doubt encouraged to cover-up these classified programmes
and to divert attention away from the reality of flying disc technologies.
- - Further evidence to substantiate the
German-American origins of flying discs.
- - The first known photograph of Dr. Walter
Richard Miethe, the man most responsible for postwar flying disc sightings.
- In addition, I have further revelations
about disc construction at Papoose Lake and the role of the USAF and US
Navy in the flying saucer story. FOIA documents and witness testimony have
provided vital new leads.
- Order you copy of 'Focus' magazine today!
- A big thank you to Bill Rose and David
Windle for having the guts to tell the truth at last!
- Tim Matthews - British UFO Studies Centre
- September 20, 1998
- Dear All,
- Amongst other positive responses to the
article in the October article of 'Focus' magazine come various enquiries.
It has not escaped people's attention that the Germans were toying with
remote-controlled rocket planes that were to be launched at allied bomber
formations. Not only that, but a version of the Messerschmidt Me-163 was
remote-controlled and operated by a primitive but workable TV link!!
- Thinking about 'foo fighters' for some
time whilst writing the first book - which could now be added to and significantly
rewritten given incoming information - certain things are clear from some
of the reports and I emphasize that probably no one explanation is viable
for all of them:
- - the foo fighters ascended from Nazi
- - appeared to be under intelligent (remote)
- - they were seen by experience pilots
and were unlikely to have been simply examples of 'St. Elmos Fire' or similar
- - were seen descending into Nazi-held
territory in areas where underground facilities were known to be located.
- Again it would seem that terrestrial
technology was responsible for these early 'UFO' reports. perhaps even
more interesting is one report that some remote-controlled Me-163 craft
were shipped to Japan for use. Maybe that type of arrangement explains
some sightings in the Far-Eastern theater of war??
- JET-POWERED DISCS
- These were certainly constructed and
were certainly responsible for many sightings in the late 1940s and early
1950s. I spoke to Thomas C. Smith of Pennsylvania about his work with Chance-Vought
in the war and up to '46. As a engineer he worked on both the XF5U1 and
subsequent jet-powered versions. This is not surprising given the change
from props to jets after the war. Perhaps not coincidentally, Chance-Vought
moved to Texas in 1947/8. The letters on the side of the discs stored at
MacDill AFB in 1967 and seen by former combat veteran and USAF reporter
Jack Pickett read "U L" which indicate construction before 1962
by the Vought and Bell companies - the letters indicated the manufacturer.
- This is going to get very interesting
because the only thing that proponents of the aliens in saucers myth can
come up with is that the aliens, although massively advanced and whose
technology was akin to magic, used similar flying discs!! I think not and
now we can explain cases like McMinnville and Rouen with greater ease and
certainty. I think we also can make a strong case that these were the craft
captured on film by William Rhoads (or is it Rhodes? I've seen various
spellings in books and Intel' docs...) in Arizona in 1947.
- Even more interesting is the claim from
both Pickett and another remarkable source, whose information I shall be
presenting on US Talk Radio soon, that the Pentagon did nothing to discourage
the belief in aliens. Speaking to my colleague Jenny Randles, one of the
best researchers and writers around, I understand that she has concluded
- through recent research - that the early 'Contactee' stories were deliberately
planted.... Exactly who was a spook (was it Adamski?) is anyone's guess
but perhaps our subscribers know something?????
- I'll tell you something even more coincidental.
In 1951 it was decided at Wright-Pat to go ahead with a very advanced saucer
project involving Dr. Walter Richard Miethe and AVRO Canada. The alien
contact stories took off at that time didn't they? Hmmm.......
- On a separate note there is a big debate
raging in the UK about the use of hypnosis and 'recovered' memories of
close encounters. Does anybody have an informed view about the link between
hypnosis and 'abductions'? On a personal note I have to say I am quite
interested in this and at this stage I see no reliable medical or scientific
evidence to indicate that hypnosis is an effective way of finding out about
the objective reality of events.
- I could be wrong - convince me otherwise....
- In coming months it is likely that a
small-scale MIT abduction conference will be held in the UK and I should
like to hear your views on this very important subject. I am particularly
interested to hear from US researchers and experiencers. Your experiences
and information are, as ever, held in the strictest confidence!
- Tim Matthews - British UFO Studies Centre
- September 23, 1998
- Dear All,
- In response to recent comments about
the real flying discs - those designed, built and flown by the US Navy
and USAF from 1946 UK aviation, astronomy and photographic expert Bill
Rose had this to say:
- "Judging by the email you sent me,
there seems to be a fair bit of confusion about supersonic flight prior
to Chuck Yeager.
- I've personally never suggested that
discs with supersonic performance were operational prior to 1947 - but
who knows? The Germans flew the first winged vehicle beyond Mach One in
1945 which was an unmanned A-4b rocket. They were going to fly these second
generation V-2s with pilots had the war lasted longer. (As I recall, the
design wasn't right and the wings came off the second prototype!!)
- Arnold said the craft he sighted were
boomerang shaped, which strongly suggests a top secret development of Horten
or Lippisch work - maybe by Jack Northrop.
- The (significant) F-6 Douglas 'Skyray'
(followed the XF5-U1) was heavily Lippisch and featured transonic performance
with reheat. As a low aspect ratio design, it looked very saucerish with
its manta-ray shape and reflects 1940s thinking. The key element to pre-Yeager
supersonics is undoubtedly afterburner design (rather than rocket power)
and the British and Germans knew all about this long before the Americans.
After all, they built their postwar aerospace industry on a lot of UK and
- I doubt if Arnold was that accurate on
his estimates of performance, but I think it is quite possible that a few
US high performance prototypes were flown in secret which fell between
the Horten lX and the 'Skyray'. Because of Yeager's flight, they will never
be revealed. But who knows?"
- I fully concur and might add that I spoke
to a man who wishes to remain anonymous who conducted the first tests on
the Horten lX in 1947 and who strongly suggested that these and similar
advanced aircraft were up and flying at the time. What is more, the Americans
were testing all sorts of stuff back then and were starting to use their
German assets. Even more traditional histories of this, including Phil
Butlers' important "War Prizes" (Midland Publishing Company,
1994) give some examples. David Myhra's acclaimed new book on the Horten
Brothers is also worthy of study.
- For some further information I suggest
the following sites: www.nurflugel.com the "Luft 46" German Secret
Weapons site and finally Maurizio Vergas' similar and useful page at: www.ufo.it
- Tim Matthews - British UFO Studies Centre
- September 24, 1998
- Dear All,
- Exciting new information - again from
the Matthews camp.
- US Air Intelligence Report 100-203-79,
only recently declassified, makes a number of intriguing comments about
flying saucer-type aircraft and notes that some of the sightings in 1947/8
might have related to 'experimental flying wing aircraft'. It also talks
about 'jet-equipped aircraft with pancake or flying wing configurations'.
- beyond the obvious conclusion that these
were responsible for sightings - and despite the obvious later change in
policy after Soviet discs and similar low aspect ratio aircraft attempted
to penetrate the DEW line from the late 1940s onwards we have always suspected
that the heel-shaped objects were in fact evidence that the XF5U-1 Chance
Vought 'flying pancake' had flown in relation especially to the Muroc Field
'unknowns' of July 1947 which to this day remains a core case within the
field of UFO research.
- Despite the obvious conclusions, researchers
still intend to play their silly games and live up to the expectations
of their belief systems. Fine - may their God go with them.....
- But AIR 100-203-79 should dispel any
doubts that the XF5U-1 flew. What is so important about this you may ask.....Quite
simply that all the official histories claim that the aircraft never did
more than 'taxiing tests'. Of course one wouldn't build an advanced aircraft
and then just attempt taxiing tests (!) but that has been the lie.
- Paragraph 8 (2) of the document in question
- "Among those which have been operational
in recent years are the XF5U-1 "Flying Flapjack"".
- This was a US Navy aircraft and I suggest
that the 'Operation Mainbrace' sightings of 1952 related to a Navy disc.........
- Need we say more?
- On the one hand belief and evidence for
strange natural phenomena and on the other classified aviation research.
- Tim Matthews - British UFO Studies Centre
- NORTH-WESTERN READERS
- Wednesday October 7th 1998 at 7.30pm.
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- "The Final Truth About Flying Discs!"
- Big screen overhead and overhead projection,
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- Admission just £2.50.
- Possibly the most important UFO lecture
September 25, 1998
- (Note - The following is an excerpt from a widely circulated
email response by Tim Matthews to comments of two others interested in
this subject. For the sake of clarity and due to the truncated version
of the conversation, the two others are only identified here as Person
1 and Person 2. We are posting this to give you an idea of the tempo of
inquiry and data flow in this subject area.)
- Person 1: I was not aware the scope of development of
US built saucer-shaped craft during the 1940's. Since there now appears
to be evidence that the Vought XF5U-1 flew, are there any other documents
of informants that follow up on the future of that program? Looking at
the grand scheme of things, I'm assuming there was a natural progression
of this technology.
- Person 2: The XF5U-1 flew in 1942. In 1947 Chance-Vought
placed it on railroad car and carted it down to an air show here in Connecticut
and it flew for a short time then.
- Tim Matthews: WRONG AGAIN!
- It was not designated XF5U-1 in 1942 but rather the V-173.
Designed by Zimmerman the V-173 was a smaller and less powerful STOL aircraft
using 80 hp engines that flew over 50 times showing the truly remarkable
handling qualities of the design. Great interest, as well as substantial
funding was forthcoming from the US Navy.
- The official history books, Angelucci/Bowers or Art Schoeni
(Aeroplane Monthly November 1975, pp.566-571 and December 1975 pp.624-627)
indicates that the XF5U-1, although much more adavnced than it's competitors
(even jet designs) only underwent taxi tests....although it occasionally
lifted off during these.
- The designation XF5U-1 emerged officially after the award
of contract on July 15th 1944.
- Schoeni writes: "Vought requested the Navy for permission
to transport the XF5U-1 flight test vehicle to Muroc Dry Lake bed, where
unlimited emergency landing space and few observers would make testing
- MUROC FIELD - SITE OF THE JULY 1947 SIGHTINGS OF A REMARKABLY
SIMILAR AIRCRAFT - of 'ET' origin according to some idiots....
- He adds, pp.626;
- "The predicted speed range of the big Pancake was
amazing. Whereas other designers could not better a one to four ratio in
landing speed to top speed, the Vought machine was expected to achieve
a range of 40-425 mph with the original engines, 20 to 460 mph with water
injection engines AND 0-550 MPH WITH GAS TURBINE POWERPLANTS."
- Sounds like the kind of aircraft, of entirely terrestrial
origins, reported by numerous observers, some of them credible, from the
early days of the postwar saucer flap. Sounds like such an aircraft, the
product of human acheivement, would fit the bill nicely for reports of
those 'flying saucers' or so-called UFOs able to travel at very low speed
and appear to hover (an area of some contention) and whihc were of metallic/light/silver
- Person 2: Other than that, if you can find records of
it zooming around the skies, then you have something indeed.
- Tim Matthews: Aren't the reports records and what about
the 'records' that we know exist in the archives and which have NOT been
released? And what about that 23rd July 1948 document (again!) noting the
existence of an X-plane built by Vought (who were involved in the construction
of the saucers that Jack Pickett saw, touched and photographed back at
MacDill in 1967) and postwar Navy tests into low aspect ratio aircraft?????
- Person 2: Official and press records only indicate this
one flight in 1947 until the time of its destruction. It would indeed be
interesting to see any evidence of other flights. Supposedly there was
3/4 model of the V-173 in Chicago that was flown from time to time. Again,
lets see the evidence of: 1) the esistance of the model and 2) this thing
zooming around the skies.
- Person 1: Does anyone know what events took place after
this program and what craft today, if any, is a descendant of that program?
- Tim Matthews: Probably the flying triangles....
- Person 1: I'm also curious about the informant who had
worked on the Horten designs. I know I have asked this question before,
but did the informant mention where the ideas behind the designs or the
technology come from? I guess I'm trying to figure out if Bob Lazar's and
others' claims of back-engineering of alien craft is really happening.
- Tim Matthews: Lazars' claims about alines technology
are b.s. - pure and simple.
- Person 1: And if so, how long ago did this begin? Could
the private sector have been working on their own designs at the same time
the gov't was working on the real stuff?
- Tim Matthews: Of course!
- Person 2: Several firms/agencies tried out the Hortens'
aircraft designs. Northrop used a postwar advertisement of one Horten's
flying wing to recruit employees.
- Tim Mattews: You're getting there....
- Person 2: Lazar is a teller of tall-tales
- Tim Matthews: Yep.....
- Person 2: ..and has the kind of television presence that
UFO "documentary" makers love. ("Who cares if it's BS, it
sure looks good!") Proof of anything that Lazar has claimed is completely
lacking. If there is proof of Lazar's claims, let see it!
- Tim Matthews: Still waiting.....