- (See pics below)
- From: "Dan Ahrens" <Dahrens@wpcs.net
- To: "Jeff Rense"
- Subject: Pics re:UFO Crash Site
- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:24:53 -0600
- Hi Jeff, Here are some screen shots that were sent to
me by my brother. He located Cadotte Pass on his GPS software, and marked
a line that would represent about 2 miles in an easterly direction. The
first point of reference would be at Cadotte Creek. This would be a
probable area that Mr. Lumley would be camping since it is near a water
source. Then up the hill is Cadotte Pass. The next hill over is about
2 miles walking distance as you can see on the 3D rendering and would be
a possible crash area. Thanks, Dan Ahrens
- Dear Jeff,
- I found an interesting story awhile back of a crash of
a probable extraterrestrial craft that has never been sought out by the
U.S. government. This in itself sounds impossible, since it seems nothing
gets by them, but the overwhelming facts and the time frame that this supposed
crash took place has made it a lost and forgotten one in history. This
is an article that has been published in Fate Magazine, and appears on
many web pages of the internet pertaining to a UFO crash in Missouri in
1865. The original article was from an old Cincinnati newspaper from 1865.
The actual crash must have taken place in Sept. of 1864, so, it is yet
to be recovered.
- An Extraordinary Story: A Meteoric Shower Crockery Falling
from the Sky The Missouri Democrat of a recent date tells the following
- Mr. James Lumley, an old Rocky Mountain trapper, who
has been stopping at the Everett House for several days, makes a most remarkable
statement to us, and one which, if authenticated, will produce the greatest
excitement in the scientific world.
- Mr. Lumley states that about the middle of last September,
he was engaged in trapping in the mountains about seventy-five or one hundred
miles from the Great Falls of the Upper Missouri, and in the neighborhood
of what is known as Cadotte Pass. After sunset one evening, he beheld a
bright luminous body in the heavens, which moved with great rapidity in
an easterly direction. Visible for at least five seconds, when it suddenly
separated into particles, resembling, as Mr. Lumley describes it, 'the
bursting of a sky-rocket in the air.'
- A few minutes later, he heard a heavy explosion, which
jarred the earth perceptibly, and this was shortly followed by a rushing
sound, like a tornado sweeping through the forest. A strong wind sprang
up about the same time, but suddenly subsided. Filling the air with peculiar
odors of a sulphurous nature. These incidents would make a slight impression
on the mind of Mr. Lumley, but for the fact that on the ensuing day he
discovered, at the distance of about two miles from his camping place,
he could see in either direction a wide path had been cut through the forest.
Giant trees uprooted and broke off near the ground. The tops of hills shaved
off and the earth plowed up in many places. Great and widespread havoc
is everywhere visible.
- Following up this track of desolation, he soon ascertained
the cause of it in the shape of an immense stone driven into the side of
a mountain. The most remarkable part of the story is an examination of
this stone and how it had been divided into compartments. In several places
it was carved with hieroglyphics. Mr. Lumley also discovered fragments
of a substance resembling glass, and here and there dark stains, as though
caused by a liquid. He is confident that the hieroglyphics are the work
of human hands, and the stone itself, is a fragment of an immense body,
must have been used for some purpose by animated beings.
- Strange as this story appears, Mr. Lumley relates it
with so much sincerity that we are forced to accept it as true. It is evident
that the stone which he discovered, is a fragment of the meteor which was
visible in this section last September. The stone will be remembered in
Leavenworth, Galena and in this city by Col. Bonneville. At Leavenworth
the stone separated into particles and exploded.
- Astronomers have long held that it is probable that the
heavenly bodies are inhabited -- even the comets -- and it may be that
the meteors are also. Meteors could be used as a conveyance by the inhabitants
of other planets in exploring space, and it may be that hereafter some
future Colombus, from Mercury or Uranus, may land on this planet by means
of a meteoric conveyance, and take possession thereof -- as did the Spanish
navigators of the New World in 1492, and eventually drive what is known
as the "human race" into a condition of the most abject servitude.
There must be a race superior to us, and this may at some future time be
demonstrated in the manner we have indicated.
- (End of article)
- Upon evaluation of the facts in this particular case,
I have found some very interesting details from that time frame could not
have been misinterpreted. I believe I know the location of this craft when
it met its demise.
- I have purchased topographical maps of the area the crash
took place, but I don't have the expertise needed to interpret the map's
details. I have, however, pinpointed a fairly close location of where the
craft crashed. The location is mis-reported on the internet. Cadotte Pass,
Missouri does not exist. Although if you obtain the USGS map numbers TMT0343
and TMT1872 you will find that these are of Cadotte Creek and Rogers Pass
area in Montana on the Continental Divide. The Cadotte Creek topographical
map clearly shows Cadotte Pass where the crash took place. Mr. Lumley was
camping out near Cadotte Pass and more than likely near Cadotte Creek which
would be a close water source for a trapper. The old article clearly states
that Mr. Lumley was in the Upper Missouri which is of course located in
Montana, and that he was 75 to 100 miles up from the Great Falls. This
area is exactly where Cadotte Pass is located so his recollection was very
good as he reported it.
- It is apparent that at the end of the article the reference
to Leavenworth and Galena is a misinterpretation of an unrelated meteor
that was spotted in Kansas and Missouri and tied it to the story that Mr.
Lumley was giving.
- It would really be interesting if people would get the
word out and locate this object via the private sector without government
involvement, and for once let the UFO community and scientists examine
this evidence first hand. I believe that this would be a truly scientific
and historic event. I have seen cover-ups in the past and it seems the
serious investigators never get the chance to evaluate the evidence. It
seems all traces just get whisked off to a government facility somewhere...never
to be seen again.
- I don't see any special needs that the researchers would
require other than a small handheld GPS and some good metal detectors or
Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) and, of course, the time to pursue it.
- Daniel W. Ahrens <firstname.lastname@example.org