- Methusalem, your parents are divorced, and your mother
is inflaming public opinions against your father. What persuaded you to
take sides in this "War of the Roses?"
- Actually I am of the opinion that the divorce is purely
a personal matter between my parents and is none of my business, and I
should not interfere. After all, my relationship with both parents is not
affected by the divorce. But when I read Luc Bürgin's interview with
my mother, I was extremely upset and was forced to change my mind in this
regard. Once again my mother is up to her old foul play. She is telling
Bürgin things for which I have proof that they are not true. She
is lying when she says my father has been cheating people for years and
that she has helped him in the process. I can testify to the fact that
she, too, had numerous sightings at different times of the day and night.
- Cross your heart ...what do you think today of your father's
UFO contacts, now that you have moved out of your parents' home? And:
Did you ever have your own doubts?
- My opinion of my father's contacts has never wavered
over the years. I am just as convinced now as I ever was that his contacts
are real, and this is a logical consequence resulting from my own experiences.
After all, even as a small child I already had opportunities to attend
sightings, at which my mother and occasionally also my brother and sister
were present. These sightings have always stayed in my memory because
they were so impressive for us all. I actually never had any doubts although
I have extensively and intensively pondered Papi's contacts, which seems
to me only natural. After all, I had to associate everything I experienced
and heard with my surroundings, and for this reason I inevitably probed
everything I was experiencing and hearing.
- Were you ever witness to UFO sightings or any unusual
incidents which convinced you that your father was actually having contacts
- In an earlier answer I already mentioned that I had various
opportunities to witness sightings, even as a small child. Several of
these sightings are still very clear in my mind. They have imbedded themselves
indelibly in my memory because of the surrounding circumstances. As far
as unusual incidents and the like are concerned from which one could conclude
that my father actually maintained contacts with extraterrestrials I have
- The earliest experience I can still vaguely remember
was a sighting in June of 1976, when I was not even three years old. We
were with my mother, my brother and sister, Hans Schutzbach, and Amata
Stetter in a nature reserve in Hinwil. I can still recall that it was
a sunny, warm day and that Hans Schutzbach began running around very excitedly
when a large silver disk was departing. He photographed it nervously,
but by then it was already quite far away. We watched with great interest
for a long time as the disk flew off.
- In the summer of 1980 I was present in the Sädelegg
when we were given an opportunity to record the whirring sounds of Semjase's
beamship. I was standing next to Mami, in view of my father, when the whirring
sounds began. They were so loud that even neighbors who lived about 4
kilometers [2.4 miles] away came to see what was going on. Mami was with
her recorder in such an advantageous position to the source of the sounds
that she was able to make the best recordings of all.
- One year later in early August, together with several
others, I observed at night a formation of six light objects on the horizon
above the Bühl in the Töss Valley. Based on their unusual flight
maneuvers, there was no way they could have been regular airplanes. The
"show" lasted for more than half an hour and in addition to
my mother, my father, my brother Atlantis and sister Gilgamesha, several
other people observed the display too. The ships performed various formation
flights and very unusual flight movements before some of them simply disappeared;
we could still watch the others until they blended into the darkness.
- Later on, in September 1982, when I was barely nine years
old, I was standing next to my father when a small foot bridge was being
cemented across a drainage ditch at the driveway of the shed. As soon
as the work was completed we left the construction site to bring material
for cordoning off the area to protect the freshly cemented foot bridge.
Silvano, who had gone ahead of us, suddenly came dashing around the corner
of the shed and called out to my father, because in the meantime someone
had actually stepped into the fresh cement. Papi griped and ran to the
construction site where we noticed, only at second glance, that the imprint
of the shoe was exceedingly large, namely more than 42 centimeters [16.5
- Have you ever experienced or seen anything that would
indicate that you father wanted to deceive others?
- No. I have neither experienced anything like this nor
were there indications that he had faked something. It is not his nature
to fabricate anything for other people or to cheat them. I am certain that
my father is telling the truth in regard to his contacts, and this also
coincides with my own experiences.
- What do you personally tell those people who accuse
your father of being a fraud?
- There is an old saying one can learn how to lie from
hearsay. This applies to most of those people who call my father a fraud.
Very few of them have ever convinced themselves of the situation by going
to the actual locations or delving seriously into these matters. And if
they have actually done so, they often showed their jealousy because they
couldn't handle the fact that another person can experience something
that didn't happen to them.
- My father withdrew from the public eye over the years
partially because of my mother [Kalliope Meier] but also to give her a
chance at playing top fiddle. By letting her have her way in this manner,
he was able to satisfy her urge to be "top dog." In keeping
with his character, he certainly didn't mind this at all, because by doing
so he could avoid some people fawning over him since they looked on him
as the great master, a guru or something special. However, he finds such
idolization repugnant and extremely unwelcome. For this reason he continues
his life withdrawn from the public.
- Thank you, Methusalem
- Copyright © 1999 Michael Hesemann. All rights reserved.